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Tamia20
12-04-2008, 02:55 PM
I sure do because I just don't buy her story. She came to Oakdale for Liberty she found her she should have went back home. I mean she's nothing but a Gold-Digger.

What do you guys think be Honest ??

The Intruder
12-04-2008, 03:30 PM
BIG TIME FAKE:devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::dev il::devil:

rachel11
12-04-2008, 04:03 PM
It's so hard to tell. There are times when she seems like she's a good person who just wants to be loved and have someone to love too. But then there are times when I think she's manipulative and deceitful. I can't decide. :weird:

PattiCake
12-04-2008, 04:07 PM
I hope she is. The writers have (tried to) make her TOO perfect. Poor widdle Janet that was a teenage unwed mother, working multiple jobs to feed her and her kid. They're just laying it on a bit too thick for my taste. :rolleyes: She needs a dark side. ;)

The Intruder
12-04-2008, 04:10 PM
Hi patti:hug: imo she has a darkside like julia1 and i sure it will surface soon. look how she is so sweet to carly when jack is around and then BAM when he is gone the fangs come out. what a Bi*C%.

I hope she is. The writers have (tried to) make her TOO perfect. Poor widdle Janet that was a teenage unwed mother, working multiple jobs to feed her and her kid. They're just laying it on a bit too thick for my taste. :rolleyes: She needs a dark side. ;)

hoplady
12-04-2008, 04:15 PM
I don't see her as perfect but I don't see her as the big (insert word) that most of you here do, but then I am not a Carly nor Carjack fan. Never have been so I'm not biased towards anyone who gets in steamroller Carly's way. Janet has had a hard life. I can see her family abandoning her when she got pregnant as a teen and chose to keep the child, happens in small towns all the time even in this day and age. She is far from being an innocent but we really don't know anything about any of the men that she has been involved with other than the one who was married and came to town. Doesn't mean that they all were like him.

Personally, I think she makes a good addition to the cast. Some of Jack's words today were somewhat convincing as well even if it did sound like a rehash or rephrasing of almost the same thing that Josh said about his relationship with Reva and GL and why he was moving on and we all now see that he realizes that he made a mistake.

Tamia20
12-04-2008, 04:17 PM
Janet's faults are going to be found out soon enough because your Past is always coming back and she is not going to think hers can't come back also. Jack is a damn Detective he could look up her history what is wrong with this man he's so blinded by Love he has connection to look up her history do a damn Background Check before you marry this woman she could be a Con-Artist and he doesn't even know anything about Janet he's just running away from Carly not even thinking clearly

P.J.
12-04-2008, 04:19 PM
I wouldn't call her a gold-digger...but I think Carly's right...she's a disaster in the making. I'm sick to death of her sad little orphan stories, and piling them one on top of another does NOT excuse her childish impulses where money is concerned. Today would have been funny, if it hadn't been so pathetic.

And NO, I don't think Pinson is God's latest casting "gift" to ATWT either.

Tamia20
12-04-2008, 04:29 PM
Neither do I PJ Julie Pinson is a good Actress but I don't think she has good Chemistry with Micheal Park like Maura West does

Janinekahill
12-04-2008, 04:36 PM
Janet is NOT fake and Julie has great chemistry with Michael. I actually like Jack when he is with Janet, which is more than I can say than when he is with Carly. Anyone that wants to see Carly genuinely happy will hope that she finds someone other than Jack. Carly and Jack's relationship is toxic and they bring out the worst in each other. :Sickest: Time to move on.

TamJonFan
12-04-2008, 04:41 PM
I don't think she's a fake or a gold digger and I didn't really hate the character either I just hate her with Jack since I want him with Carly:P For some reason though I have the feeling that Janet is going to end up being married already to someone else. There has to be a reason TIIC are shoving another Jack wedding down our throats so fast, something has to happen. I hope at least.

southerncharm
12-04-2008, 05:10 PM
I don't see her as perfect but I don't see her as the big (insert word) that most of you here do, but then I am not a Carly nor Carjack fan. Never have been so I'm not biased towards anyone who gets in steamroller Carly's way. Janet has had a hard life. I can see her family abandoning her when she got pregnant as a teen and chose to keep the child, happens in small towns all the time even in this day and age. She is far from being an innocent but we really don't know anything about any of the men that she has been involved with other than the one who was married and came to town. Doesn't mean that they all were like him.

Personally, I think she makes a good addition to the cast. Some of Jack's words today were somewhat convincing as well even if it did sound like a rehash or rephrasing of almost the same thing that Josh said about his relationship with Reva and GL and why he was moving on and we all now see that he realizes that he made a mistake.Guess what, Debbie, I like Janet too. If she is being conniving, she is darn good at it. As much as I love Carly, (as you know I do)I still cant hate Janet. She will have to do something really bad to make me hate her. She reminds me of myself...alot. I didnt have a baby out of wedlock, but she seems very smart and has a heart. This last week, with the wedding....yeah...I can see where she is coming from. When youve never had anything, and youre finally getting married, I can see why she wants the dream. Im not saying its right, but I see where she is coming from. Carly is the same...hard life....UNFORTUNATELY, Jack never treated Carly as a princess that I can remember. Carly deserves better. And the powers are stupid to keep Michael and Maura apart. Jack should be giving Carly a dream life.

Irene1951
12-04-2008, 05:40 PM
I just think that MP/MW drive great story when they are not together. I will admit I am not a big Carly/Jack fan. But I am not a couples fan to begin with.

I like Janet. She is good character. The whole single mother premace is good. I hope they also have Brad continue to be involved with Liberty also.

Back to Janet. I think she is what she seems to be. If she is a golddigger, why pick someone who is not rich and has to borrow to stay afloat?:rolleyes: I think she loves Jack.
I give kudos to all ATWTs actors for presenting us with entertaining fine stories.
Can't wait to see what happens next. :)

Boldbeauty02
12-04-2008, 07:44 PM
I think she is just a leech, I believe she would have married any man that promised her the world, there is a difference between someone who is truely in love and somone who is an opportunist, Janet doesn't really love Jack, she is an opportunist.

Tamia20
12-04-2008, 07:58 PM
I believe the woman is a Con-Artist and she's good at her trade.....but you know Janet needs another person that is not Jack. I think Jack is going to be sorry if he goes through with this wedding to Janet. I mean Janet is a great person she just is making too much haste for the Snyder Clan and she is a Leach and a Moocher

dirklover
12-04-2008, 10:29 PM
I don't think she is a gold digger cause if she was why should she go for Jack.

Jack is a cop with 3 kids. If she was a gold digger she should go for Dusty. Who do has a lot of money.

I had nothing against Janet till Jack proposed her. Since than she changed in an evil witch.

ParkWestfan
12-05-2008, 12:30 AM
I happened to think Janet is a fake. But then, I am a die-hard CarJack fan. I also think, whether she is or not, it's only a matter of time before turbulence, tough times, a sordid past and general malaise will effect the "happy" couple. And this makes me happy. ATWT does NOT do happy for long. All I'm sayin' is enjoy it while it lasts Jacket fans.

pebbles76
12-05-2008, 01:34 PM
I don't think she is a fake. I think she is poorly written.

How is it that she managed to keep a roof over Liberty and her head all these years but in Oakdale she has to live under someone else's roof? We know she wasn't getting help from her family before Oakdale because she was cut off. She's been mooching off of Brad and Emma (when she was staying at the farm) since she came back.

Also, if she is so set on having her dream wedding why is she rushing it? Most people I know plan their wedding for months, if not years, before the wedding...half the reason is to SAVE MONEY FOR IT! I don't understand the need for a shot gun wedding.

I like Julie. I watched her on DAYS and think she's a good actress. I just don't think this character is well written....very inconsistant. If she is a fake, that would be a GREAT story line. Since I don't give the writers enough credit for that - I don't think she's a fake. And not to put Julie down or anything but what's with her hair lately?

P.J.
12-05-2008, 01:51 PM
I changed my mind....Janet is a fake. She pays lip service to doing all the "right" things, but ultimately gives way to her greedy, selfish impulses with barely a second thought.

Janet (and Julie) can't leave town soon enough for me. I'm sick to death of her one-note acting. I'm sick of Pissy's latest Pet eating up Oakdale.

MarsBelle
12-05-2008, 02:00 PM
The show is setting Janet up to be this fake saint.

Janet will give up her dream dress--Janet didn't need and couldn't afford a dream dress--and YES, the bride pays for her own freaking dress.

Janet will give up her dream wedding so Jack doesn't have to take a second mortgage on HIS CHILDREN'S HOUSE? Are you kidding me? In this economic environment, that Jack considers even for a microsecond putting their home at risk to give his current chippy an expensive wedding is the most sickening thought I've read all day. That Janet is willing to "sacrifice" so that Jack doesn't have to do that is a complete poppycock. If you can't afford that wedding, you don't have that wedding. That's not a sacrifice, it's common sense and common decency.

I'm supposed to see Janet as good and sacrificing because she doesn't let Parker use his trust fund to pay for it? If it wasn't for Janet and her equally selfish child, that ridiculous question doesn't even get asked, let alone squashed.

Janet's not sacrificing. Janet had no right or reason to expect any such thing. That she has gone off and made committments well beyond her own and Jack's means is a problem of her own making. It's a sacrifice if she's spending her own money. It's not a sacrifice to forego the expensive wedding when she was basically asking other people to pay for it.

Stuff like this makes me despise the character more and more.

Tamia20
12-06-2008, 07:54 PM
I agree with you Mar that was terrible to think about putting a 2nd Mortgage on the House. I wish Jack would just pinch himself and wake up out of this NightMare

facecake
12-06-2008, 08:05 PM
Also, if she is so set on having her dream wedding why is she rushing it? Most people I know plan their wedding for months, if not years, before the wedding...half the reason is to SAVE MONEY FOR IT! I don't understand the need for a shot gun wedding.

That was actually Jack's idea, not Janet's. He pushed to get married right away during that whole silly custody thing with Sage.

Like someone else here said; I have no problem with Janet, but then again, I'm not a die-hard Carjack fan. Seems the biggest Janet-haters are also the biggest Carly/Carjack-lovers. I'm sensing a connection there :P

Jasmin79
12-06-2008, 08:06 PM
I don't think it matters whether Janet is fake or not because obviously she is the new ABC darling of TIIC and they're gonna keep her coated so deeply in teflon that even if she is fake, it won't matter to anybody, and especially not to Jack. The plot here calls for the same old formula *Janet/Julia/Julia/Katie-GOOD*..*Carly-BAD. So it really doesn't matter whether the fans think she's fake or not because none of her questionable behavior will be held against her.

CarJackfan
12-06-2008, 08:30 PM
Like someone else here said; I have no problem with Janet, but then again, I'm not a die-hard Carjack fan. Seems the biggest Janet-haters are also the biggest Carly/Carjack-lovers. I'm sensing a connection there :P

I'm sensing the biggest Janet lovers are the CarJack/Carly haters.

Janet was not a popular character when she started on the show. Some people changed their opinion but some of us never did. I just find her to be too loud, abrasive and over the top obnoxious. It's the same reason I don't like Brad and neither has anything to do with CarJack.

BEFAN05
12-06-2008, 09:12 PM
I've always thought that Janet was a fake&a golddigger. The reason I say that is b/c she actually thought that Jack has $5000 to pay for a wedding dress, knowing he was a cop with 3 children to support.

facecake
12-07-2008, 09:12 AM
I'm sensing the biggest Janet lovers are the CarJack/Carly haters.

Janet was not a popular character when she started on the show. Some people changed their opinion but some of us never did. I just find her to be too loud, abrasive and over the top obnoxious. It's the same reason I don't like Brad and neither has anything to do with CarJack.

There are Carly/Carjack haters? I seriously haven't noticed any on this board, it's like she's the freaking teflon woman or something :P I have no issues with Carjack, and yeah, when I first started watching this show Carly was bugging the crap out of me, but she's kind of growing on me, much thanks to Maura because she's amazing.

And yet, I see Janet as the exact opposite from how you see her. I think she's fun and bouncy and sweet and she really brings some life to the scenes she's in.

Maybe it's just a matter of taste :P

But still, the fact that you think she's loud and obnoxious is no reason to think she's a manipulative b!tch?

CarJackfan
12-07-2008, 09:53 AM
It's definitely a matter of taste. That's why we don't all like the same characters or else there would be no need for more than a handful of them.

It's her actions that make me think she is manipulative. She manipulated Brad when she first got to town and now it's Jack she's manipulating. It started with getting him to propose when clearly he wasn't ready to do that. Jack knows he can't afford the $20,000 for the wedding and he's always been responsible. She put on the pity party about her never before mentioned family and got him to go along with it. He didn't want to be married in a church but she's getting him to do that too and on and on.

P.J.
12-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Well, I might have been rooting for Janet to bust up Katie's marriage...but it wasn't because I liked her. I'm generally for anyone who could make Katie's life miserable. I think she's a selfish, clinging, insecure woman. Kind of like Lily...who I haven't liked in ages. TIIC fooled me for about 2.5 seconds when Janet clearly understood Jack and Carly were still hung up on each other. Then Janet returned to form and suddenly became convinced Jack was over Carly in spite of nearly sleeping with her.

Janet may be thoughtless more than selfish...but it still isn't something I admire. I don't always agree with Carly's actions, but there are moments she truly sacrifices for her children, which I do admire. Janet has supported Liberty...but I have yet to see her truly sacrifice anything for her. Any time she attempts to, we get another sob story and Janet ends up getting exactly what she wants.

Scarlett_Echo
12-07-2008, 11:07 AM
Janet's immaturity is my biggest turn-off. Couple that with condescension towards Carly and she's insufferable.

hoplady
12-07-2008, 11:27 AM
I wonder if it is possible to separate Janet from Carly and not see her in terms to how she threatens the Carjack relationship. Almost everytime someone posts something negative they can't seem to do it without invoking Carly's name into the comment.

ParkWestfan
12-07-2008, 12:00 PM
I think Janet suffers from a serious case of arrested development and has a boundary blurring relationship with her daughter - they come off as girlfriends instead of mother/daughter. (I'm suprised Libby isn't at Janet's hen party). I don't care for that - irl or on a soap. IMO, it's pathetic. I see Liberty being desperate to make her mother happy. As if that's her role. And that has to do with parenting. Truthfully, Janet has never appealed to me from day one. I think she's tacky and think she is manipulating Jack. Of course, he's stupid enought to fall for it (careful what you wish for Jack)....

BTW, I think so many people keep comparing her to Carly because that's the story they've given her, right? Janet is a newbie, we know little of her past (except the 'poor me' stories she's told). If she turns out to really be this sainted - I believe we're looking at another uninteresting character. I have no attachment to a character that has little or no history as of yet with the show. She's been on since May, and I don't believe she's that interesting- she might be in time, but not yet.
Lastly, she's coming between my two favorite characters and I reserve the right to dislike her.

P.J.
12-07-2008, 12:56 PM
I wonder if it is possible to separate Janet from Carly and not see her in terms to how she threatens the Carjack relationship. Almost everytime someone posts something negative they can't seem to do it without invoking Carly's name into the comment.

What difference does it make who Janet's compared with? Carly is the foil for Janet right now...and it's only natural to compare two characters who are in the same story.

I could just as easily compare Janet to Katie. It doesn't make Janet any more secure, mature or less clingy. Maybe we could go around comparing Lily and Janet. They're both pathetic. Janet and Meg are nearly as delusional about the men they love, IMO. The only woman who Janet could possibly look better than (again, IMO) is Emily, who is one vengeful, self-destructive piece of work.

facecake
12-07-2008, 01:21 PM
I don't really think it's fair to say that Janet's past is "poor little me" sob stories. I don't think it's right to belittle a single mother's struggle to take care of her child without any means of support. I am very able to sympathize with Janet's character because my aunt went through similar ordeals (my family didn't kick her out and she wasn't quite as young as Janet, but still), it's really freaking tough to go through. No money, no ability to finish school, men who treat her like sh!t; I've seen it, and it sucks.

And I don't think Janet manipulated Jack into marrying her. She just said that she was tired of ignoring her own needs and for once she was going to have it all or nothing. That wasn't her forcing Jack to propose, that was her telling him what she wanted and him giving it to her. He could've left her. He didn't.

So no, I don't think she's a fake. I think she's a woman who's had a hard life and now that everything is finally going well, she gets carried away by her happiness. She may be a little silly and has bouts of dumbness and is more than a little bit in denial, but she's not a bad person.

pebbles76
12-07-2008, 01:22 PM
I wonder if it is possible to separate Janet from Carly and not see her in terms to how she threatens the Carjack relationship. Almost everytime someone posts something negative they can't seem to do it without invoking Carly's name into the comment.

I don't think I mentioned Carly's name in my post. I am a Carjack fan but I don't dislike Janet because of Carly. I dislike Janet because she is a very dependant woman who has not stood on her own two feet since she came to town.

Like I said before I believe the character is poorly written....I might have even liked Janet if she wasn't such a mooch.

And facecake, I get that this was Jack's idea but she didn't have to agree to it, especially after everything was dropped if her dream wedding was SO important.

facecake
12-07-2008, 01:26 PM
And facecake, I get that this was Jack's idea but she didn't have to agree to it, especially after everything was dropped if her dream wedding was SO important.

I love how when it's Jack's idea to do something, it's Janet's fault for going along with it, and when it's Janet's idea, she's manipulating him.

The poor girl just can't do anything right, can she?

AJoanna
12-07-2008, 01:31 PM
BIG TIME FAKE:devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::dev il::devil:

I am with you. Her manipulations so crafty it needs an X'ray radar to find out. It is done with a smile and a sob story and every one is looped in without any resistence. She reminds me of Iago in Othello.

HennyPen
12-07-2008, 02:13 PM
The show is setting Janet up to be this fake saint.

Janet will give up her dream dress--Janet didn't need and couldn't afford a dream dress--and YES, the bride pays for her own freaking dress.

Janet will give up her dream wedding so Jack doesn't have to take a second mortgage on HIS CHILDREN'S HOUSE? Are you kidding me? In this economic environment, that Jack considers even for a microsecond putting their home at risk to give his current chippy an expensive wedding is the most sickening thought I've read all day. That Janet is willing to "sacrifice" so that Jack doesn't have to do that is a complete poppycock. If you can't afford that wedding, you don't have that wedding. That's not a sacrifice, it's common sense and common decency.

I'm supposed to see Janet as good and sacrificing because she doesn't let Parker use his trust fund to pay for it? If it wasn't for Janet and her equally selfish child, that ridiculous question doesn't even get asked, let alone squashed.

Janet's not sacrificing. Janet had no right or reason to expect any such thing. That she has gone off and made committments well beyond her own and Jack's means is a problem of her own making. It's a sacrifice if she's spending her own money. It's not a sacrifice to forego the expensive wedding when she was basically asking other people to pay for it.

Stuff like this makes me despise the character more and more.

You said it all. The fake part of Janet is going to be that she is going to be portrayed as being so self sacrificing by giving up her dream wedding, which she should have had sense enough to know that she could not afford in the first place. :rolleyes:

P.J.
12-07-2008, 02:35 PM
I don't really think it's fair to say that Janet's past is "poor little me" sob stories. I don't think it's right to belittle a single mother's struggle to take care of her child without any means of support. I am very able to sympathize with Janet's character because my aunt went through similar ordeals (my family didn't kick her out and she wasn't quite as young as Janet, but still), it's really freaking tough to go through. No money, no ability to finish school, men who treat her like sh!t; I've seen it, and it sucks.

No one is belittling real life single-mothers. My beef is with a fictional character getting convienent "outs" to explain her clingy selfish behavior. The fact that she had it tough, doesn't excuse her bad parenting either. Before Janet came to town, Libby made it clear that school was not a priority, a fact that was reinforced multiple times when Janet excused (or suggested not attending) Libby from school for some trivial reason.

And I don't think Janet manipulated Jack into marrying her. She just said that she was tired of ignoring her own needs and for once she was going to have it all or nothing. That wasn't her forcing Jack to propose, that was her telling him what she wanted and him giving it to her. He could've left her. He didn't.

I've NEVER seen Janet ignore her needs. She wanted Brad, she went after him. She wanted sex, she went after Jack. And the fact is, Jack DID step back after the "bennies" were cut off. HE was fine shacking up. That was his idea after another "woe is me, I don't have my own friggin' kitchen" speech. It was little Libby Lou who went and pleaded with him to give her mother another chance. He even freaking TOLD Holden he wasn't ready to be anyone's husband. And the fact that he was suddenly clinging to Janet after getting rejected by Carly speaks volumes.

When someone says "I don't want to shack up, I'm cutting off sex...figure it out", that's manipulation in it's purest form.

paigedown
12-07-2008, 02:43 PM
Janet is fake. I am Fan Carly & Jack.

maxiecart
12-07-2008, 03:01 PM
If we really wanted to separate Janet from the Carjack story, many of us would be forced to remember the Janet that first hit town --the one that tried very hard to come between Brad and Katie. Janet's first scene was throwing herself into the arms of Brad and telling him she sure remembered him (from their sexual encounter 16 years ago, I am presuming) all in front of his wife.
She then deliberately imposed herself on Brad and Katie at every opportunity - feeding Brad while Katie was out of town, parading around in front of Brad (in Katie's home) in a bathing suit, putting on sexy dresses to go see Brad, going to Brad's job on a regular basis, and finally laying a huge, wet kiss on Brad and professing her love - knowing this man was happily married. After Brad's rejection of that kiss - that very night, I think- Janet and Jack began their friends with "bennies" relationship.

So, while Carjack fans may be a bit put out at Janet's sudden saintly behavior, it is because this character has been entirely revamped for the sole purpose of coming between Carly and Jack. Nothing else can explain the turnaround. So, I am tired of hearing that only Carjack fans don't like Janet - I hated Janet from the minute she hit town and actually felt sorry for Katie at the constant insinuation of Janet into her life.

So, non-Carjack fans can also remember the woman that originally appeared on the scene - the needy, manipulative, femme fatale that we witnessed attempt to steal - yes, steal- Katie's husband. How conveniently all that is forgotten now that its Carly being spurned and not Katie. :rolleyes:

facecake
12-07-2008, 03:22 PM
No one is belittling real life single-mothers. My beef is with a fictional character getting convienent "outs" to explain her clingy selfish behavior. The fact that she had it tough, doesn't excuse her bad parenting either. Before Janet came to town, Libby made it clear that school was not a priority, a fact that was reinforced multiple times when Janet excused (or suggested not attending) Libby from school for some trivial reason.

I've seen more than one person call Janet's past "poor little me sob stories", like she's making crap up to gain sympathy. If that isn't belittling what she went through, I don't know what is.

I've NEVER seen Janet ignore her needs. She wanted Brad, she went after him. She wanted sex, she went after Jack. And the fact is, Jack DID step back after the "bennies" were cut off. HE was fine shacking up. That was his idea after another "woe is me, I don't have my own friggin' kitchen" speech. It was little Libby Lou who went and pleaded with him to give her mother another chance. He even freaking TOLD Holden he wasn't ready to be anyone's husband. And the fact that he was suddenly clinging to Janet after getting rejected by Carly speaks volumes.

When someone says "I don't want to shack up, I'm cutting off sex...figure it out", that's manipulation in it's purest form.

I agree with you, I haven't seen Janet ignore her own needs either, I was just retelling what she said to Jack. And well, if Jack wasn't ready to be someones husband again, then he shouldn't have proposed. It's as simple as that. She told him what she wanted, which was ALL or NOTHING, and he decided to give her ALL. I don't consider that manipulation. That's called knowing what you want and not settling for less. Jack could have said "Janet, I'm not ready for marriage, so sorry, but we're going to have to go our separate ways".

All I'm saying here is that it takes two. Jack is entirely responsible for his own actions.

P.J.
12-07-2008, 03:35 PM
I've seen more than one person call Janet's past "poor little me sob stories", like she's making crap up to gain sympathy. If that isn't belittling what she went through, I don't know what is.

But everyone in town already knows she's been a single mother for umpteen years. Where it wears on people is having her pull it out when she's suddenly in danger of being denied what she wants. Emily used to do the same thing whenever she got caught in her schemes. Every time, she'd wail about growing up with Susan-the-alcoholic, as if she was still a child incapable of understanding the difference between right and wrong.


And well, if Jack wasn't ready to be someones husband again, then he shouldn't have proposed. It's as simple as that.

All I'm saying here is that it takes two. Jack is entirely responsible for his own actions.

I agree...and I never said Jack wasn't responsible for his own actions. If there's anything I can take comfort in, it's that Jack's actions have proven Carly was right, and that Jack's all over the map emotionally. Janet is the unfortunate (if culpable) recipent of his rebounding affections.

facecake
12-07-2008, 04:42 PM
But everyone in town already knows she's been a single mother for umpteen years. Where it wears on people is having her pull it out when she's suddenly in danger of being denied what she wants. Emily used to do the same thing whenever she got caught in her schemes. Every time, she'd wail about growing up with Susan-the-alcoholic, as if she was still a child incapable of understanding the difference between right and wrong.

I don't see it quite the same way you do... I don't think she's using her past as an excuse for her actions. I guess our perception is just different.

I agree...and I never said Jack wasn't responsible for his own actions. If there's anything I can take comfort in, it's that Jack's actions have proven Carly was right, and that Jack's all over the map emotionally. Janet is the unfortunate (if culpable) recipent of his rebounding affections.

That's exactly my point. Janet isn't a bad person, she was just unfortunate enough to come between a couple like Carjack. She's not manipulating Jack into doing something he doesn't want to do, because everything he does is on him. I don't think she deserves all the blame here.

truefan
12-07-2008, 04:59 PM
I think Janet is just being herself. She loves Jack and thinks he loves her. Only time will tell where Jacks heart really is.

maxiecart
12-07-2008, 05:23 PM
I think Janet is just being herself. She loves Jack and thinks he loves her. Only time will tell where Jacks heart really is.
But, who is the real Janet? The scheming manipulator that blew into town to break up Brad and Katie's marriage or the hard-working, down to earth single mom who is now marrying Jack?
How are we supposed to know what Janet is really up to when she has been portrayed/written so differently based on which man she is after? With Jack she's been all honesty and roses, but when she was trying to get Brad, she was hardly that.

Scarlett_Echo
12-07-2008, 06:33 PM
I don't think Janet is all that "down to earth"...

leilani
12-07-2008, 07:26 PM
But, who is the real Janet? The scheming manipulator that blew into town to break up Brad and Katie's marriage or the hard-working, down to earth single mom who is now marrying Jack?
How are we supposed to know what Janet is really up to when she has been portrayed/written so differently based on which man she is after? With Jack she's been all honesty and roses, but when she was trying to get Brad, she was hardly that.

Good question.

P.J.
12-07-2008, 11:01 PM
I don't think Janet is all that "down to earth"...

ICAM....but I'm going to savor the fall....:D

BTW...I think a woman can be a gold-digger, without going after a millionaire. I'm sure compared to the losers Janet's bagged, a guy with a steady job and a pension looks like a secure future.

Doc
12-08-2008, 08:51 AM
I've always loved Carly and I don't don't dislike Janet. JP makes it very difficult for me to dislike "Janet". I actually think Janet and Carly could be great friends raising hell all over Oakdale. LOL

JMO, but when TPTB rush a relationship AND a wedding as fast as they did J/J's, it's not suppose to last. Jack/Janet's relationship is there to create angst for CarJack. IMO,the more Jack realized he wasn't over Carly and in fact, was still in love with her, the more he was drawn to Janet so he could deny and bury those feelings for Carly.

It NEVER works out being with someone else to get over the one you REALLY love. :(

I just think it is RIDULOUS for TIIC to have Jack MARRY again so quickly! It makes his character that much more cartoonish. I was watching the promo and Katie is sitting there and I had to wonder if she was thinking...."didn't he just say all those things to me LAST year?" When are the words real for Jack and when are they just words???? :Blah:

Scarlett_Echo
12-08-2008, 09:27 AM
ICAM....but I'm going to savor the fall....:D

BTW...I think a woman can be a gold-digger, without going after a millionaire. I'm sure compared to the losers Janet's bagged, a guy with a steady job and a pension looks like a secure future.

I agree, P.J.

Look how hard Liberty has been pushing for this marriage and she's known that Jack hasn't exactly been the one woman guy doing his courtship of her mother.

A lot of this has to do with her mother being taken care - and financially that's a big part of it for both Ciccone's. (However you spell that.)

pebbles76
12-08-2008, 02:45 PM
I love how when it's Jack's idea to do something, it's Janet's fault for going along with it, and when it's Janet's idea, she's manipulating him.

The poor girl just can't do anything right, can she?

I NEVER said she was manipulation anyone so PLEASE do not put words in my mouth. My point is simply if her ideal wedding is THAT important to her, perhaps she should not have agreed to a shot gun wedding. THAT'S ALL!

As a matter of fact, I don't think I ever stated that I don't like Janet. All I said was that she was poorly written. Her character is very inconsistant. Which has nothing to do with Julie, that is all on the writers. I DO like Janet, I don't like her mooching but I do like her. I just wish that they would write her more consistantly.

facecake
12-08-2008, 02:53 PM
I NEVER said she was manipulation anyone so PLEASE do not put words in my mouth. My point is simply if her ideal wedding is THAT important to her, perhaps she should not have agreed to a shot gun wedding. THAT'S ALL!

As a matter of fact, I don't think I ever stated that I don't like Janet. All I said was that she was poorly written. Her character is very inconsistant. Which has nothing to do with Julie, that is all on the writers. I DO like Janet, I don't like her mooching but I do like her. I just wish that they would write her more consistantly.

I apologize, I obviously mixed your post up with another post. Sorry.

Tee1961
12-11-2008, 08:04 AM
I don't like her! In fact i can't stand her! She blew into town chasing after a married man. Duh? If that's not coniving then what is? She pushed herself on Brad and Katie. When that didn't work then she set her sights on Jack. She's a b*T&@#. What woman goes in a rearranging another woman's kitchen (only to help)? I'll bet if you tried that in her kitchen she would lay you out. I don't buy her poor little Janet routine. She knew Brad didn't want her why did she leave? She didn't believe because of her agenda. She needed another person to suck the life out of. She fell for his brother awful fast. Don't buy her game. Don't feel sorry for her. She's a gold digger and maybe more dangerous.

Tee:Sickest:

Tee1961
12-11-2008, 01:42 PM
Although I have not changed the way I feel. This is no way to act on this forum. I'm just as bad as those in the No Brad Fans allowed post. I respect Janet fans and their right to their opinions.
:)


I don't like her! In fact i can't stand her! She blew into town chasing after a married man. Duh? If that's not coniving then what is? She pushed herself on Brad and Katie. When that didn't work then she set her sights on Jack. She's a b*T&@#. What woman goes in a rearranging another woman's kitchen (only to help)? I'll bet if you tried that in her kitchen she would lay you out. I don't buy her poor little Janet routine. She knew Brad didn't want her why did she leave? She didn't believe because of her agenda. She needed another person to suck the life out of. She fell for his brother awful fast. Don't buy her game. Don't feel sorry for her. She's a gold digger and maybe more dangerous.

Tee:Sickest:

Tamia20
12-11-2008, 02:13 PM
I can not stand Janet either and I believe she has more things up her sleeve really I do and I do not believe Jack is going to stay married to Janet because he's going to begin to see all her imperfections

CarlyFan26
12-16-2008, 12:04 PM
Janet is a fraud! :devil: